I Cast My Vote And All I Got Was This Lousy Government

A RE-CAP AND A NIGHT CAP

Perhaps we cannot escape the question often posed at The Political Pub, one that lies at the heart of our political engagement: Who is running our government? On other evenings we have focused on who and government. But last night we looked at our government, us, turning to the subject of Representative Democracy, and the meaning, or lack thereof, of the Vote.

First we asked, Why is the Vote valuable? “People take responsibility for themselves.” “Politicians cannot ignore our votes.” “Voting puts pressure on politicians.” “It is important and fundamental to our representative democracy.” “It stops bad people from taking power.“ “It is our best defense against dictators.”

We also recognized the historical and continued struggles to achieve the Right to Vote. This being by consensus the most basic civic duty, one man even went so far as to suggest that voting be the price of admission for participation in The Political Pub.

These accolades, however, came with a caveat: that the vote as it stands today is perhaps a sham. What could the vote possibly mean, many of us asked, after Gore beat Bush but Bush won the presidency? Or in an era when Presidents claim they have no control over the powerful agencies that actually run our government? Or when ungodly amounts of money are spent on elections, lobbying and political consulting? “Money controls politics, politics money.” “Americans actually believe they make a difference.” “People are dissappointed because they expect things.”

Some put it on our own shoulders: “We don’t know what we want anymore.” Others thought that politics has simply gotten out of control, due to “information overload.“

Amidst this lively back and forth, our guest, Professor Yukio Koriyama, offered a very fresh and concrete view on how to improve political representation. If voting is what is behind our representative form of government, he asked, then are we really offered a system of voting that best represents the multitude of our political voices?

As an economist who specializes in both game theory and voting, Yukio explained that his job was to define the “good system.” For him, a “good system is one that reflects real opinion,” where election results (i.e., “aggregate preferences”) truly reflect the preferences of all voters, and where “honest voting” is encouraged.

Yukio stated his own preference for the principle of “one person, one vote”, contrasting this with others in his field who have called for a sort of “voting market”. However, he warned that while “one person, one vote” is an admirable ideal (and often a constitutional mandate), “we do not have a voting scheme that best achieves this.”

He spoke to us about vote-splitting, using the French 2002 Presidential Election as an example. There, the extreme rightwing candidate, Jean Marie Le Pen, ran against Jacques Chirac in the second round, having beaten Lionel Jospin, the more likely second candidate, in the first round. The problem, or irony, was that, while a large number of people indeed voted for their “real preferences” (for candidates outside the major parities), this ultimately diluted the votes of a more favored candidate, Jospin. While Le Pen ultimately lost by a landslide (82% to 18%), the damage to democracy was already done: voting systems that give voters only one vote (plurality votes) sometimes lead to lesser-approved candidates winning elections.

Yukio then surprised us with the results of an experimental vote conducted during this same 2002 election, in which a select group of French voters were asked to use a different system called Approval Voting. They were given the same list of candidates as in the first round, but they were allowed to express an approval for more than one candidate. The results were astonishing: not only did Le Pen drop far below 2nd place, the approval rating of Chirac and Jospin also fell, and most surprising of all, the winner in the experimental election was the centrist candidate, François Bayrou.

This highlighted, for Yukio, the kind of struggle he and his colleagues face while trying to devise a system in which only “honest votes” control election outcomes. Today, the modern voter is told to not vote his or her preference if it falls outside the major (two) parties. One women confronted this head-on when she spoke of her experience growing up in Russia under one-party rule. Under one-party rule, you vote for two candidates who will nonetheless do the same thing – that which the party dictates. She claimed that America’s two-party rule is no different: Americans are still choosing a puppet of the powerful political parties, who in turn are really running the government, and who do so according to their own self (monied) interests.

We ended by taking a quick look at the subject of proportionality in government. Yukio left us with the story of Luxembourg. For the first twenty years of the European Union, Luxembourg had no meaningful vote because their proportionate vote had no real impact on any outcome. This only came to light thanks to a growing interest in the application of mathematical vigor to voting schemes. Since then, governments have improved on the implementation of proportionality. (Yukio here planted the idea that “concavity” and “square roots” are essential elements of a good system. He claimed that America, with its electoral college and congressional bicameralism, has good concavity, making it more representative than most systems.) Proportionality, especially in Europe, is about controlling majorities and giving more presence to minority parties. But some people remained sceptical about proportionality, arguing that it leads to bad governance, or that extremists will start running the government.

Yukio’s final word on the subject was to strongly suggest that we look into the concept of “digressive proportionality.” This is optional for our political pubbers, but we want to give a big thanks to the Professor, and to all who attended, for making this an enjoyable evening.

– Peter

I Cast My Vote And All I Got Was This Lousy Government

I CAST MY VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY GOVERNMENT

 The crisis of electoral politics and representative democracy in the 21st century

Here are some links to help get our brains churning for Tuesday night.

A debate on the success or failure of the 2-party system

These parties are lame

One article on William Poundstone’s “Gaming the Vote”, a book that offers perhaps the best background on the subject of voting…

…and another

Two presidents?

Some electoral rage from the Netherlands (and George Carlin too!)

What’s gone wrong with democracy? A global view.

EXTRA CREDIT! Several alternative voting schemes:

Mixed-Member Proportional Representation Explained

FairVote.org | How Instant Runoff Voting Works

RangeVoting.org

I Cast My Vote And All I Got Was This Lousy Government

I CAST MY VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY GOVERNMENT

 The crisis of electoral politics and representative democracy in the 21st century

Tuesday October 21 at 8pm at The Highlander Pub

Given the increasing complexity of governance, with issues, influence and events intermingling at often blinding speed, does our democracy remain truly representative? Is it enough to say that by voting we are participating in a representative democracy? And what can we truly hope to get in return for our participation? Do the men and women we elect truly govern based on the will of the people?

To help animate the discussion, we will be joined by Prof. Yukio Koriyama of the Department of Economics at Ecole Polytechnique who is part of a longstanding movement trying to change voting systems that have traditionally favoured two parties, arguing that there are fairer systems that can better represent the kaleidoscope of voices and opinions in a given society. An expert on game theory, he also makes the claim that current voting systems award strategy and deception while minimising the power of the honest vote.

With Prof. Koriyama’s help we want to approach our discussion from two directions. First, by sharing our thoughts about the current state of representative democracy and the increasing disconnect between citizens and government. Second, by questioning the electoral process itself and whether by voting we are truly able to express our preferences and our desires and influence the policies that shape our world. To get an idea how this takes shape in the US, check out www.fairvote.org.

Big issues to be sure and especially relevant given the upcoming midterm elections in the US and increasing frustration with government and politics in France and across Europe.

Takin’ it to the Street

A RE-CAP AND A NIGHT CAP

When met on Tuesday September 23 to talk about street protests it was on the heels of the huge Climate March in New York, as well as other cities around the globe, including Paris. And even as we write this re-cap tens of thousands of people have taken to the streets in Hong Kong as part of a pro-democracy demonstration, defying a police crackdown that included tear gas, batons and pepper spray.

Regardless of what we may think about street protests, what motivates us to demonstrate, whether they are peaceful or violent and what protestors can hope to achieve, it seems likely that they will continue to be part of our political landscape for the foreseeable future.

Our evening began with the general notion that participating in protests is a way to have a voice, to remind ourselves that we are part of a collective society and that we should not feel alone in our positions and our opinions. But the perhaps cynical question of whether protests can really have an impact and can effectively influence government and even society soon reared its head, with references being made back to the anti-Vietnam protests and how much (if any) impact they had on ending the war.

It may well depend on what kind of issue brings everyone out into the street. We noted that demonstrations that seek to stop or support a specific law or policy would seem to have a greater chance of success compared to something like Occupy Wall Street which took on the entire issue of economic inequality. Of course you could say that Occupy Wall Street was really about raising awareness, but for several voices in our audience it still wasn’t clear how much public and/or political momentum the movement was able to generate.

A woman from England made the interesting point that in some cases protests should be viewed and even judged across class lines, pointing out that the solidarity of Benetton-wearing members of weller to do British society were not necessarily welcome among working class protests when the miners struck in the 1980s. However not everyone was ready to accept the idea that we should judge people by their reasons for joining a protest, suggesting that in many cases a cross-section of society is best. It is worth noting that a number of non-Arabs, including Jews, joined the recent pro-Palestinian protests in France.

We then moved on to the specific events of this past summer in Paris, Sarcelles and Ferguson. There were mixed feelings about the police in Paris banning the pro-Palestinian protests, although there was general support for the notion that demonstrations in Paris always seem to carry the risk of violence, with the famous “casseurs” somewhere on the margins. As for the presence and role of the police, there was certainly debate about whether their presence in general is a stabilizing or provoking force.

One member of the audience argued that the police should be supported as ordinary people doing a difficult job under orders from on high and felt that even the militarized police presence during the early days in Ferguson helped ensure that the situation didn’t get worse. Although others agreed that the police, and even the CRS, can offer a feeling of safety when tens of thousands take to the streets, there was little agreement that the militarized police in Ferguon was a welcome sight or made the situation any better.

As for violence itself, it’s never truly welcome but there was the suggestion that in some cases it can help the cause by focusing attention on the protests and the issues at hand. As one voice argued, dramatic images of hoses firing water on marchers helped get the Civil Rights Movement on TV and may have in turn helped influence public and political perception.

The idea of protests falling on class lines then came back onto the table in regards to Ferguson when a brief exchange ensued over whether the demonstrations and protests by the African-American community were about racism or economic inequality. There was support for both positions, although trying to separate or even distinguish between the two when looking at race relations in America is a herculean and perhaps impossible task.

As the evening drew to a close one member couldn’t help but wonder whether protests are becoming an even more vital part of our democratic society, remarking that if we can only get so much out of our elected officials by voting then perhaps street protests are the only effective way for our voices to be heard. Not every protest results in change and there may always be a risk of sentiment spilling over into violence but given the world today it is not surprising that the street continues to draw a crowd and play a powerful and often important role in popular society.

 

Takin’ it to the Street

Some light reading for September 23

To help get the mind churning we’ve assembled a collection of links focused on the events in both Paris/Sarcelles and in Ferguson from this past summer, as well as a few that speak to the bigger picture. Please feel free to leave a comment below and we look forward to seeing everyone Tuesday night.

Paris and Sarcelles

Demonstrations across Europe against Israel’s incursion into Gaza

Violence erupts in front of a synagogue on rue de la Roquette

The French government prohibits two pro-Palestine demonstrations

An unjust decision?

A sign of weakness?

The street boils over in Paris…

and in Sarcelles

A French exception?

A Jewish and pro-Palestinian perspective

Ferguson

A timeline

John Oliver sums it up

A militarised police force

So where did all the gear come from?

Reopening the debate on race in America

In defence of black rage

Violence as a catalyst for change?

What white Saint Louis has to say about Ferguson

What the kids of Ferguson have to say to white America

The Big Picture

How violence eruopts during street protests (a somewhat dated French study)

How violence eruopts during street protests (a more recent American study) 

Do protests really make a difference?